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Joe Alwyn Says He’d Only Talk About His Relationship With Taylor Swift Off The Record

And how it felt to work on Folklore with her.

By Diandra Malivindi
Joe Alwyn may be the latest leading lad in the upcoming Conversations With Friends book-to-show adaptation, but he's also been the main man in Taylor Swift's love life for the past five years.
And while the pair have been spotted entering and leaving venues hand in hand, the couple have made sure to keep their relationship much more private than most. Now, Alwyn has opened up yet again about why he and Swift choose to keep their romance out of the public eye.
In an interview with The Guardian, Alwyn opened up about working with Swift on her 2020 album, Folklore. On the album, Alwyn is credited with co-writing "Exile" and "Betty", and even on her surprise ninth album, Evermore, he is credited on the songs "Champagne Problems", "Coney Island" and "Evermore".
"It wasn't like, 'It's five o'clock, it's time to try and write a song together,'" he told the publication. "It came about from messing around on a piano, and singing badly, then being overheard, and being, like, 'Let's see what happens if we get to the end of it together.'"
He continued, "I mean fun is such a stupid word, but it was a lot of fun. And it was never a work thing or a 'Let's try and do this because we're going to put this out' thing. It was just like baking sourdough in lockdown." And according to Alwyn, winning a Grammy was a "ridiculous bonus".
As for their decision to keep their relationship out of the public eye, Alwyn elaborated on how if a conversation was truly private, then he'd have no problem talking about their relationship more. But when it comes to public interviews, their privacy is compromised.
"If you and I were having a conversation and having a shandy in my house, and it wasn't being recorded, then, of course, other things would be said," he explained. The publication also noted that Swift used almost the exact same phrasing in an interview from 2019, saying, "If you and I were having a glass of wine right now, we'd be talking about it – but it's just that it goes out into the world".
Mirroring that same sentiment in a recent interview with ELLE U.K., the actor spoke up about his struggle to understand why the world is so adamant to know the ins-and-outs of his relationship with Swift.
"It's not really [because I] want to be guarded and private, it's more a response to something else," he told the publication.
"We live in a culture that is so increasingly intrusive… the more you give—and frankly, even if you don't give it—something will be taken."
Clearly, the pair are on the same page. Swift spoke about protecting their privacy as a couple back in 2019, when she explained why she has no plans to discuss that part of her private life with the media.
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"I've learned that if I do, people think it's up for discussion, and our relationship isn't up for discussion," she told The Guardian.
"If you and I were having a glass of wine right now, we'd be talking about it—but it's just that it goes out into the world. That's where the boundary is, and that's where my life has become manageable. I really want to keep it feeling manageable."
Back in February, a source even told Entertainment Tonight that both Swift and Alwyn are pleased with their choice to keep their private life, well, private.
"[They] are very happy in their relationship [and prefer to] keep their private life private," the source claimed.
"They've been enjoying their time as a couple," they said, adding, "They have spoken about their future together and feel very secure about their relationship."
That same month, rumours swirled around the pair's apparent engagement which has not been confirmed by neither Swift or Alwyn at the time of writing.
According to Life & Style, they claimed that "multiple sources" had confirmed an engagement, with their romantic three-day trip to Cornwall in January apparently the first sign of an impending betrothal.
But of course, we can only wait patiently until the pair decide to share their love with the world. Until then, Alexa play Evermore.
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